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[A\/\/]

Afaik there were no demos for the 2004 albums. They didn't like how they kept going back to those during SCWP. Solo guitar+voice recordings from songwriting might exist though.

Curtains was the only 2004 album that John recorded at home. The recording process lasted longer than for the other ones. So this could be previously unreleased songs from that session, or alternate takes.

 

Don't forget, the Mars Volta Wiltern shows happened during the recording of this album and Omar was around, playing on it.

[Andrewf]

Maybe some 4track demos?
I kinda doubt there being completed outtakes of the curtains sessions but we'll see.I already preordered via jpc

why not? i mean there is not much info about John solo albums so there might be plenty of outtakes. we didnt know about here air before it was just released out of the blue one day. Also, remember ah yom already existing in 2004 and there were lyrics on curtains vinyl of a still unreleased song so everything is possible and we shall see

[Andrewf]

3 bonus tracks:

1 demo of a song from curtains

2 completely unheard songs

[pehjott]

3 bonus tracks:
1 demo of a song from curtains
2 completely unheard songs

?

[swan_song1977]

Don't forget, the Mars Volta Wiltern shows happened during the recording of this album and Omar was around, playing on it.

i definitely did and it has my attention now. i know im in a minority but i dont like those post water/pre empyrean albums, they're super bland to me

[Andrewf]

3 bonus tracks:
1 demo of a song from curtains
2 completely unheard songs

?

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Curtains vinyl reissue

[Santino88]

3 bonus tracks:

1 demo of a song from curtains

2 completely unheard songs

 

Source?

[Palo Alto]

What did Omar play on this out of interest?

 

I'm slightly heartbroken I seem to have missed the pre-orders for Euro edition of this and I got stung badly with customs with Empyrean reissue direct from store. It's my favourite of his I don't have. Wonderful album. 

 

I'm in that liminal space of not knowing whether to wait for Euro copy or order direct.

[xpgno]

O played on Anne and lever pulled. 

[A\/\/]

 

3 bonus tracks:

1 demo of a song from curtains

2 completely unheard songs

 

Source?

 

 

The same JF customer service.

 

They were hanging a lot during the Curtains days:

 

May 6th - TMV @ Wiltern feat. John

May 8th - John begins recording Curtains

May 13th - TMV @ Wiltern feat. John

May 14th - John stops recording Curtains, probably to prepare...

May 18th - ...Performance #10

May 19th - John continues recording Curtains until May 23rd.

 

Though now that I see that the previously unreleased tracks are demos, not finished outtakes, I'm assuming they are going to be just solo guitar & voice like acoustic SCWP.

[Andrewf]

SCWP demos were not acoustic. SCWP acoustic was recorded AFTER scwp was released

[pehjott]

SCWP demos were not acoustic. SCWP acoustic was recorded AFTER scwp was released

Nobody said that they were...
He was talking about the acoustic scwp version.I guess those demos will be like here,air

[pehjott]

What did Omar play on this out of interest?

I'm slightly heartbroken I seem to have missed the pre-orders for Euro edition of this and I got stung badly with customs with Empyrean reissue direct from store. It's my favourite of his I don't have. Wonderful album.

I'm in that liminal space of not knowing whether to wait for Euro copy or order direct.

Order a European copy.

Jpc.de

[Santino88]

What did Omar play on this out of interest?

I'm slightly heartbroken I seem to have missed the pre-orders for Euro edition of this and I got stung badly with customs with Empyrean reissue direct from store. It's my favourite of his I don't have. Wonderful album.

I'm in that liminal space of not knowing whether to wait for Euro copy or order direct.

Order a European copy.

Jpc.de

 
Um, yeah... I'm a little worried about this, though:
 
"The record is musically grandiose. Unfortunately, the sound of it is a cheek. Cheapest vinyl processed, so it sounds as if it had been played with a worn needle for 2000 rounds. Especially the atmospheric quiet passages bring more frustration than pleasure. There's no point in B Grundman taking over the mastering

 
Not to be recommended and very annoying!"
 

[pehjott]

I read many good reviews about the empyrean reissue over on Discogs
Also Grundman is a master of his craft.Main problem with vinyl these days: not enough pressing plants so the production has bad quality control and too little time especially US pressings :(

[Santino88]

I have The Empyrean reissue and that one's pretty solid. No complaints there. And of course I know about Bernie and his work, that's really not something I'm going to dispute. But that quote up there goes for Curtains, I've taken it from jpc.de. It's not like this one review is going to steer me away from ordering it, I will buy it, but it made me significantly less excited about it. And when I put it on and that review is correct, hell, I'll be pissed. And it's really not about the money. But, yeah, what can I do about it... Nothing. 

[A\/\/]

 

 

What did Omar play on this out of interest?

I'm slightly heartbroken I seem to have missed the pre-orders for Euro edition of this and I got stung badly with customs with Empyrean reissue direct from store. It's my favourite of his I don't have. Wonderful album.

I'm in that liminal space of not knowing whether to wait for Euro copy or order direct.

Order a European copy.

Jpc.de

 

 
Um, yeah... I'm a little worried about this, though:
 
"The record is musically grandiose. Unfortunately, the sound of it is a cheek. Cheapest vinyl processed, so it sounds as if it had been played with a worn needle for 2000 rounds. Especially the atmospheric quiet passages bring more frustration than pleasure. There's no point in B Grundman taking over the mastering

 
Not to be recommended and very annoying!"
 

 

 

[Santino88]

What did Omar play on this out of interest?

I'm slightly heartbroken I seem to have missed the pre-orders for Euro edition of this and I got stung badly with customs with Empyrean reissue direct from store. It's my favourite of his I don't have. Wonderful album.

I'm in that liminal space of not knowing whether to wait for Euro copy or order direct.

Order a European copy.

Jpc.de

Um, yeah... I'm a little worried about this, though:

"The record is musically grandiose. Unfortunately, the sound of it is a cheek. Cheapest vinyl processed, so it sounds as if it had been played with a worn needle for 2000 rounds. Especially the atmospheric quiet passages bring more frustration than pleasure. There's no point in B Grundman taking over the mastering


Not to be recommended and very annoying!"

Jesus, I completely missed and overlooked that! Thanks so much. 🙂

[pehjott]

What did Omar play on this out of interest?

I'm slightly heartbroken I seem to have missed the pre-orders for Euro edition of this and I got stung badly with customs with Empyrean reissue direct from store. It's my favourite of his I don't have. Wonderful album.

I'm in that liminal space of not knowing whether to wait for Euro copy or order direct.

Order a European copy.

Jpc.de

Um, yeah... I'm a little worried about this, though:

"The record is musically grandiose. Unfortunately, the sound of it is a cheek. Cheapest vinyl processed, so it sounds as if it had been played with a worn needle for 2000 rounds. Especially the atmospheric quiet passages bring more frustration than pleasure. There's no point in B Grundman taking over the mastering


Not to be recommended and very annoying!"

Jesus, I completely missed and overlooked that! Thanks so much. 🙂

It's not even released

[Andrewf]

They are being shipped. Hopefully we will get bonus tracks soon