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Posted 10 August 2003 - 07:29 PM

Flaming Lips. I have an immense internal struggle when it comes to this band. I love Soft Bulletin and i HIGHLY recommend playing all four discs of Zaireeka at once. I want to buy earlier albums like Clouds Taste Metallic and Priest Driven Ambulance but I really really hate Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots. It's all very strange.

Anyone else in this same predicament?

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Posted 10 August 2003 - 09:10 PM

How can you possibly dislike Yoshimi? It's no Soft Bulletin, but then again, what is. Get Clouds Taste Metallic. 'Lightning Strikes the Postman' is awesome (as is the rest of the album)

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Posted 10 August 2003 - 10:13 PM

i like yoshimi a lot. ive only heard that and their way old single "she dont use jelly". i want to try that four disc thing. my friend tried it. said it was weird. must be a pain in the ass to find 4 seperate cd players.

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Posted 10 August 2003 - 10:16 PM

i like yoshimi a lot. ive only heard that and their way old single "she dont use jelly". i want to try that four disc thing. my friend tried it. said it was weird. must be a pain in the ass to find 4 seperate cd players.

You definitely need to get yourself a copy of The Soft Bulletin, it's fucking amazing. Clouds Taste Metallic would also be a good addition to any collection. But seriously, you should like run out right now and find a copy of The Soft Bulletin.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 03:00 AM

I own every Flaming Lips album, except Hit to Death in the Future Head and Zaireeka. I thought that Yoshimi was a great album. Hell, the Flaming Lips are one of my favorite bands. I can't wait until their movie comes out.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 03:08 AM

i enjoy everything i've heard from them. except that "do you realize?" song..

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 04:19 AM

I own every Flaming Lips album, except Hit to Death in the Future Head and Zaireeka. I thought that Yoshimi was a great album. Hell, the Flaming Lips are one of my favorite bands. I can't wait until their movie comes out.

I've got Hit to Death and Zaireeka, but coincidentally haven't listened to either enough to say much about them yet. I refuse to listen to any of Zaireeka until I can get the 4 stereo hookup. And I think I only listened to Hit to Death once

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:48 AM

i like yoshimi........but cant get over the fact that they dont have to pay royalties to cat stevens for stealing from 'father and son'

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:39 PM

i like yoshimi........but cant get over the fact that they dont have to pay royalties to cat stevens for stealing from 'father and son'

from rollingstone.com (Stevens vs. Lips)

"The Bout: Though the Flaming Lips' "Fight Test" is the opening track on 2002's Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, at first little is made of a melodic similarity between it and Cat Stevens' 1970 tune "Father and Son" upon the album's release. But in the spring of 2003, "Fight Test" is issued as a single, and in Stevens' native U.K., the song is selected as a BBC2 Single of the Week, upping its profile.

The Decision: In June, the artists' publishing companies reach an agreement to split royalties."

But really, are you that big of a Cat Stevens fan that it pisses you off? I wonder if ol' Usef even takes any of his royalties from the Cat days anymore.

Did it bother you when Led Zeppelin recorded all those old blues numbers and made them thunderously awesome? Not that I don't like the blues, I love old blues, but you've gotta admit that by stealing riffs (and words since Plant was sketchy lyric wise early on) they managed to almost single handedly (after Hendrix died) revitalise the blues and present it to a widespread audience.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:40 PM

If there was such thing as an inverse Clown Balloon, Wayne would probably be the pilot.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:09 PM

i love the flaming lips, i just heard the soft bulletin for the first time last night.

yoshimi is a great album

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:11 PM

The Soft Bulletin is a work of art. Beautiful album.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:19 PM

Do most of us agree that The Soft Bulletin is so much better than Yoshimi?

I got SB when it first came out and was so disappointed with Do You Realize that I refused to buy the album. My room mate in University bought it without hearing anything from it because he had heard Flaming Lips compared to Sonic Youth and My Bloody Valentine. He had heard Transmissions and absolutely hated it. Him and his brother loved Yoshimi and one day they asked me "Oh my god man! How can you not like the Flaming Lips??" My reply was "Shut the fuck up boy, I'm more of a fan than you are, I own 3 albums by them, I just hate Yoshimi." I was forced to play them Soft Bulletin and Zaireeka to show them the errors of their ways. Now they never listen to Yoshimi.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:21 PM

I don't understand the animosity towards Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, sure it's not as brilliant as the Soft Bulletin, but it's still pretty fucking genius. 8|

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:24 PM

I just find it a bit...... wet, for want of a better word. It's not a progression from Soft Bulletin. They're just more and more commercial with every release. Soft Bulletin was pop-ish in a Neil Young meets The Beach Boys meets Pink Floyd kind of way. But Yoshimi is just too commercial and unaffecting to me.

Just my opinion of course.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:27 PM

I felt the same way when I first heard it. It's very much a pop record and not much of a progression from the Soft Bulletin. It took a few listens for me to warm up to it. It's just as layered and beautiful as the Soft Bulletin was, in my honest opinion, but the Soft Bulletin had come first. So in effect, the Soft Bulletin will always be a little better than Yoshimi.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:31 PM

I got SB when it first came out and was so disappointed with Do You Realize that I refused to buy the album. My room mate in University bought it without hearing anything from it because he had heard Flaming Lips compared to Sonic Youth and My Bloody Valentine. He had heard Transmissions and absolutely hated it. Him and his brother loved Yoshimi and one day they asked me "Oh my god man! How can you not like the Flaming Lips??" My reply was "Shut the fuck up boy, I'm more of a fan than you are, I own 3 albums by them, I just hate Yoshimi." I was forced to play them Soft Bulletin and Zaireeka to show them the errors of their ways. Now they never listen to Yoshimi.


you still haven't really provided any solid reason that you don't like Yoshimi as an album other than that you don't much care for 'Do You Realise?', which is only a small part of the whole. To be honest with you, I wasn't a really big fan of 'Do You Realise?' either when the album first came out. I usually skipped over it for the first month or so that I owned it. However, I was on a lot of drugs at the time and I think it was just too melancholy to deal with, but nonetheless...

Have you even listened to the entire album? I think you've done yourself and your friends a great disservice in convincing yourself and them not to listen to Yoshimi.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:37 PM

I've listened to Yoshimi several dozen times. That's why I know I don't like it. It has some good songs like Ego Tripping At The Gates Of Hell, Fight Test and Yoshimi Part 2 but even they just don't compare to Race For The Prize, The Spiderbite Song or The Gash. The whole album, I feel, lacks the outstanding musicianship and quality that made Soft Bulletin so great from the very first listen right up to when I listen to it now. Yoshimi isn't as immediately loveable or creative and two of the songs I find just plain dull. I highly recommend Zaireeka if anyone hasn't heard it.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:46 PM

It's no Soft Bulletin, but that's no reason to never listen to it ever again. It's a good album in it's own right. And definitely better than some of their earlier albums. Progression-wise, no it doesn't seem like the next step beyond Soft Bulletin as Soft Bulletin was very obviously the next step beyond Clouds Taste Metallic, but maybe it was the next step to them. Who knows? Wayne's a weird guy. Hell, he's making a movie about Christmas on Mars in his back yard in which he plays a green skinned alien.

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 08:52 PM

Oh god yeah, I've seen some stills from that movie. It looks, er, interesting.




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