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#3341 iamisandisnt

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 04:09 AM

The only reason I wouldn't bother him is if he's actually dealing with significant personal issues to a syd berret degree and is easily upset which could harm his physical/mental state.

 

If he's just holding out because of elitism, then seriously...... what swan song said.

 

note: feel free to bother me, I'm not in that state :D



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 04:13 AM

Im a trader myself but yeah traders community with all this rare stuff really pisses me off. Thats why i became a trader

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 04:18 AM

The only reason I wouldn't bother him is if he's actually dealing with significant personal issues to a syd berret degree and is easily upset which could harm his physical/mental state.

 


???



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 04:34 AM

Mods please throw in the word "never" somewhere in the title.



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 05:09 AM

 

The only reason I wouldn't bother him is if he's actually dealing with significant personal issues to a syd berret degree and is easily upset which could harm his physical/mental state.

 

???

 

 

like if he's legit got some mental disturbances and lives in his basement with a caretaker and has to take medication three times a day, maybe there's like a person who comes to check up on him once a day

 

if that was the case, I would totally let him be

 

but if he's just being an elitist cunt well then we's gots heads on sticks, mate



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 05:29 AM

 

 

The only reason I wouldn't bother him is if he's actually dealing with significant personal issues to a syd berret degree and is easily upset which could harm his physical/mental state.

 

???

 

 

like if he's legit got some mental disturbances and lives in his basement with a caretaker and has to take medication three times a day, maybe there's like a person who comes to check up on him once a day

 

if that was the case, I would totally let him be

 

but if he's just being an elitist cunt well then we's gots heads on sticks, mate

 

Ah, sounded as if you had some other information, didn't realize you were far fetched speculating ha!
He certainly hasn't come around to the Coma in quite some years :(



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 05:40 AM

yea well idk flip's post made it seem like we shouldn't set him off by asking him for it, or something serious, and noizewater has always been infamous for just ... not giving up the goods for whatever reason so maybe he knows something we don't and should just observe some providence



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:38 AM

Well, whatever. Was just alluding to the fact that he was my last lead up until tracking down Gideon Yago.
noizEwater (Ernesto) can remain as enigmatic as he wants in all of his ambivalent tape hoarding glory :-)



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 12:58 PM

Dealing with Frusciante fans fucked him (Ernesto) up for life. I had conversations with him back in the days and we had a mutual friend outside the internet.
From what I understand, he's not that well off financially and health-wise. He just put a lot of his time and money into taping and acquiring those rare goodies over the years.
If you hope to get anything from him again in the future, you better understand why he stopped putting things up in the first place. It was the feeling of entitlement to his work by the online community with the somewhat communist millenial "everything belongs to everybody" mindset that pissed him of. And I totally get that. You buy the camera equipment, go to those shows, edit the material and some 14 year old kid from europe whose only contribution to the community was the 300th FRUSCIANTE IS GOD youtube channel consisting of stolen videos reuploaded in inferior quality is coming at you for being "elitist" and demanding that you release that shit for his pleasure.

So, after a few of those incidents (which brought us some nice footage), he just told everybody to fuck themselves and stopped putting anything up.

I would HIGHLY recommend not to bother him again with this "you are a bad person if you don't give ME what I WANT" bullshit, unless you want him to never share anything again.

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:20 PM

He actually shared viper room 2001 recently. I tried to buy anything from him recently but he refused to. I heard that he asked around 200-300$ for a full video of a 2008 show with josh flea,stella and john

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:58 PM

I don't care how much his fancy camera costs, he's an asshole if he's trying to sell someone else's music.



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:59 PM

Agreed

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 04:33 PM

Didn't Andrewf just say that he refused to sell it? The thing about him asking 200-300$ for a recording is new to me. I remember a few years ago someone else tried to sell those JF performances on DVD via discogs.

 

I'm not denying that there is an element of egoism in his behavior, I just don't think the opposing side has any reason to feel morally superior entitled to his footage.



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:00 PM

Then again, literally not a single human being ever has a reason to feel morally superior to others

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:29 PM

Dealing with Frusciante fans fucked him (Ernesto) up for life. I had conversations with him back in the days and we had a mutual friend outside the internet.
From what I understand, he's not that well off financially and health-wise. He just put a lot of his time and money into taping and acquiring those rare goodies over the years.
If you hope to get anything from him again in the future, you better understand why he stopped putting things up in the first place. It was the feeling of entitlement to his work by the online community with the somewhat communist millenial "everything belongs to everybody" mindset that pissed him of. And I totally get that. You buy the camera equipment, go to those shows, edit the material and some 14 year old kid from europe whose only contribution to the community was the 300th FRUSCIANTE IS GOD youtube channel consisting of stolen videos reuploaded in inferior quality is coming at you for being "elitist" and demanding that you release that shit for his pleasure.

So, after a few of those incidents (which brought us some nice footage), he just told everybody to fuck themselves and stopped putting anything up.

I would HIGHLY recommend not to bother him again with this "you are a bad person if you don't give ME what I WANT" bullshit, unless you want him to never share anything again.

 

 

this poast is GOD

 

shall we start a "Feel Good Fund for Noizewater" kickstarter? this is exactly what I was talkin about

 

us millennials fucked him up for realz, time to pay back

 

 

 

THIS IS FOREVER

 



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 08:41 PM

the lord gave, and the lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the lord

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 08:57 PM

I remember having a few noizewater videos on my video ipod back in the days of video ipods. Shame that things ultimately went so sour. He did some good work. 



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 09:06 PM

well he didnt really refuse to sell them to me because he basically said something along the lines that he is homeless so i think a "kickstarter" would work if he'd promise to upload all of that stuff once all of us solve his financial troubles. but i don't really trust him.

he asked for 200-300$ from another guy and the guy said it's too much and after that ezion said something like "haha if u don't buy it i will destroy them" and the dude was like "yeah whatever"



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 09:07 PM

and the dvds that were tried to be sold on discogs were already on the internet so i dont get the point of that



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Posted Yesterday, 08:42 AM

I don't really buy any of that hogwash. He could have just sold tapes to the band if that was the case. Sounds full of it.






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