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The Loudness WarThe Mars Volta's mastering quality


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#101 johnb820

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 12:54 AM

That's a defect. Not audible on vinyl copies.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 01:00 AM

That's a defect. Not audible on vinyl copies.

Hmmm, it's possible, but I can also detect them on this youtube version of the song, found at

Skip to 3:57 to hear the most audible ones – it almost sounds like a slightly open hihat being struck, but I don't think it's that, because John Theodore's hi hats sound different on the track.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 01:14 AM

this album was recorded with TAPE.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 01:37 AM

In other news, has anyone else noticed those weird digital pops and clicks that start happening at around 3:06 in "Cassandra Gemini: B. Plant A Nail In The Navel Stream"? I've always wondered if they were intentional or not. It certainly gives a feel of the very fabric of the song breaking apart, as the reverie of the jam gives way to the main Cassandra riff and the conclusion of the album.

Yes, and it makes me skip that part every time. I absolutely hate that noise, I love the music and what's going on but I can't focus because of all the random clicking.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 04:03 AM

I read most of this thread. Mostly because i was really bored.

The original poster inspired a conversation that he had no part in, which i found ironic. tBiG sounds like that OP, because it's supposed to. Buy it on Vinyl, and enjoy one of the best recordings ever.

my copy of tBiG (vinyl) is starting to wear out, it's actually kind of exciting. The guitar chorus melody on Metatron is almost completely inaudible. But what i was trying to say about the vinyl recordings is that there is no loudness war involved. Buy good music on vinyl. And stop using digital technology. It will never be better.

yada yada yada.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 06:14 AM

I read most of this thread. Mostly because i was really bored.

The original poster inspired a conversation that he had no part in, which i found ironic. tBiG sounds like that OP, because it's supposed to. Buy it on Vinyl, and enjoy one of the best recordings ever.

my copy of tBiG (vinyl) is starting to wear out, it's actually kind of exciting. The guitar chorus melody on Metatron is almost completely inaudible. But what i was trying to say about the vinyl recordings is that there is no loudness war involved. Buy good music on vinyl. And stop using digital technology. It will never be better.

yada yada yada.


Why is it wearing out? Do you not take care of your records or what? Just curious cause I just bought TBIG yesterday and I love it :biggrin:


vinyl grooves vs. needle/moisture/handling/dust/static/smoke/shake/ash/etc.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 04:28 PM

I read most of this thread. Mostly because i was really bored.

The original poster inspired a conversation that he had no part in, which i found ironic. tBiG sounds like that OP, because it's supposed to. Buy it on Vinyl, and enjoy one of the best recordings ever.

my copy of tBiG (vinyl) is starting to wear out, it's actually kind of exciting. The guitar chorus melody on Metatron is almost completely inaudible. But what i was trying to say about the vinyl recordings is that there is no loudness war involved. Buy good music on vinyl. And stop using digital technology. It will never be better.

yada yada yada.


Why is it wearing out? Do you not take care of your records or what? Just curious cause I just bought TBIG yesterday and I love it :biggrin:


vinyl grooves vs. needle/moisture/handling/dust/static/smoke/shake/ash/etc.


Dude I have records that were around before you and I were even in a nutsack and they still sound brand new, its all about the treatment and care.



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Posted 04 March 2011 - 10:24 PM

I read most of this thread. Mostly because i was really bored.

The original poster inspired a conversation that he had no part in, which i found ironic. tBiG sounds like that OP, because it's supposed to. Buy it on Vinyl, and enjoy one of the best recordings ever.

my copy of tBiG (vinyl) is starting to wear out, it's actually kind of exciting. The guitar chorus melody on Metatron is almost completely inaudible. But what i was trying to say about the vinyl recordings is that there is no loudness war involved. Buy good music on vinyl. And stop using digital technology. It will never be better.

yada yada yada.


Why is it wearing out? Do you not take care of your records or what? Just curious cause I just bought TBIG yesterday and I love it :biggrin:


vinyl grooves vs. needle/moisture/handling/dust/static/smoke/shake/ash/etc.


Dude I have records that were around before you and I were even in a nutsack and they still sound brand new, its all about the treatment and care.

nutsack treatment

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 01:46 AM

I read most of this thread. Mostly because i was really bored.

The original poster inspired a conversation that he had no part in, which i found ironic. tBiG sounds like that OP, because it's supposed to. Buy it on Vinyl, and enjoy one of the best recordings ever.

my copy of tBiG (vinyl) is starting to wear out, it's actually kind of exciting. The guitar chorus melody on Metatron is almost completely inaudible. But what i was trying to say about the vinyl recordings is that there is no loudness war involved. Buy good music on vinyl. And stop using digital technology. It will never be better.

yada yada yada.


Why is it wearing out? Do you not take care of your records or what? Just curious cause I just bought TBIG yesterday and I love it :biggrin:


vinyl grooves vs. needle/moisture/handling/dust/static/smoke/shake/ash/etc.


Dude I have records that were around before you and I were even in a nutsack and they still sound brand new, its all about the treatment and care.

nutsack treatment


Yes...

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 02:02 AM

I read most of this thread. Mostly because i was really bored.

The original poster inspired a conversation that he had no part in, which i found ironic. tBiG sounds like that OP, because it's supposed to. Buy it on Vinyl, and enjoy one of the best recordings ever.

my copy of tBiG (vinyl) is starting to wear out, it's actually kind of exciting. The guitar chorus melody on Metatron is almost completely inaudible. But what i was trying to say about the vinyl recordings is that there is no loudness war involved. Buy good music on vinyl. And stop using digital technology. It will never be better.

yada yada yada.


Why is it wearing out? Do you not take care of your records or what? Just curious cause I just bought TBIG yesterday and I love it :biggrin:


vinyl grooves vs. needle/moisture/handling/dust/static/smoke/shake/ash/etc.


Dude I have records that were around before you and I were even in a nutsack and they still sound brand new, its all about the treatment and care.


the more the needle runs on the record (you play it) the more it wears. no matter how clean your dick is

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 02:03 AM

My dick is worn.

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 02:57 AM

The most notable cut and paste in Cassandra is the end of Multiple Spouse Wounds and into Sarcophagi. That's always sounded kind of weird to me. Why didn't they fade it? It's just really abrupt and jarring. I like it though, just seems like the correct thing to do would be fade into Sarcophagi.

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 07:25 PM

The most notable cut and paste in Cassandra is the end of Multiple Spouse Wounds and into Sarcophagi. That's always sounded kind of weird to me. Why didn't they fade it? It's just really abrupt and jarring. I like it though, just seems like the correct thing to do would be fade into Sarcophagi.


I like the abruptness of it. Takes you by surprise unlike the first time you hear it.

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 11:17 PM

The most notable cut and paste in Cassandra is the end of Multiple Spouse Wounds and into Sarcophagi. That's always sounded kind of weird to me. Why didn't they fade it? It's just really abrupt and jarring. I like it though, just seems like the correct thing to do would be fade into Sarcophagi.

That's obviously done intentionally. I don't know why you think it seems obvious that they should have faded it – it's just an artistic decision, like everything else on the album.

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 11:55 PM

I thought that the mastering was a bit better on Frances the Mute, but I have to agree it's nice having a dynamic range.. their albums are difficult to listen to but since everything is so compressed together there is still mystery in the sounds.. it's not all handed away.. its a bitter sweet for me.

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Posted 27 July 2018 - 01:24 AM

Somebody uploaded "Declipped and Normalized" Versions of Frances and De-Loused. Haven't heard all of it, but seems cool at first listen.

 

 

(EDIT: Holy fuck but the beginning of Frances with Sarcophagi's volume increasing sounds terrible. lol)






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